16 nov 2013 Ambassador Joseph R. DeTrani August 1st--4th, 2013 Rio Hotel & Casino * Las Vegas, Nevada. at ca 15 min. "... cyber is a potential wmd" "...we look to you to help produce more secure systems... and policies ... to disrupt those who seal intellectual property... need you, the good hackers of Def Con" ...".. you have the three branches of government overseeing it [the surveillance] ... it came after after 9/11... when we saw the terrorists coming..." ca 25 min. Q. from the public abt the lies abt wmd in Iraq